and if we go over the fiscal cliff, we'll have to continue to help members of congress come together and solve this problem. because, again, these are changes that will be made. the question is, are they going to be made on our own terms, or because they're forced upon us, which would be a much, much more damaging way to make changes to our country and to stabilize the deficit and debt, to help grow the economy in the longer term. so we have to keep working on this. it's one of the biggest economic challenges facing the country. >> absolutely. and the longer time goes on, the more we know just how those changes are going to happen. maya, thank you so much for your time. maya mcginnis, joining us from washington. >> our next guest thinks that you can make 20% on the american stock market next year. jim paulson is chief investment strategist at welles capital management and he's out with his investment outlook for the new year. it is a fascinating read. welcome to the program, jim. how do you argue that we'll get potentially, what is it, 1,700, i think, on the s&p, is the call. >> yeah